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"Art Merril Show" excerpts, WIOD radio
with guest Jacque Fresco, 1973.

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We are told in all good books

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that the body is the shell,

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that the soul dwells in the body.

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And when the shell comes to an end

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the soul leaves and takes on
a higher form of life for some people.

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And then we take this shell

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and we put it in a $3,000 mahogany box.

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Soft foam lining there that you've
never had when you were alive.

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And then you get a motorcycle escort
when you don’t need it at all

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on the last journey.

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Look at the people standing around and watering
your tombstones and all that sort of thing.

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Look at the fuss made over the shell.

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Why the weeping and the sadness?

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Listen carefully.

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You’re afraid.

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You really don’t believe;
you’re hypocrites, most of you.

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We are told that Jesus had come into town

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and he was a radical,
and he threatened their institutions

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and they crucified him, because he
was a threat to an existing system.

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He tried to say that there were
lots of people out there

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that tended to go along
with things as they were.

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They were part of the establishment

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who Jesus said were the hypocrites.

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They were in high places

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and a lot of them wear white
collars and they wear robes

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and they speak in a very profound way,
and yet they are hypocrites.

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They are proud of their temples
and their churches and their synagogues

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and they have forgotten completely
about the brotherhood of man.

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And your society is not that different.

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A breakdown of intellect

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and a breakdown of inquiry

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and magic-substituting.

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And Eastern philosophy, men are searching

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and they're getting off the real world.

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(- Are they searching or are they running away?)

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- They’re running away
- and hiding

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- hiding in
- to get away from reality.

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They can't take it; it’s rough.

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When you live with someone
who you believe you love

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and then the divorce comes into the picture
and people get sick in your family,

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you can’t count on material things,
they seem to fall away.

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That’s because you're looking for justice;
you're given a false package. You’re told

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“If you give all the world all the best that you have
the best will come back to you.”

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And it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t
work for Jesus, it didn’t work for Gandhi.

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[In] the real world, anything can happen.

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Your major newspapers talk of the marvels

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of the technical and scientific achievements

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and yet they have a page on astrology,

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which really belongs in the Middle Ages,

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which we are at the tail end of.

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And there are people that take to that

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and they really think that
there's such a thing as astrology.

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They think that the stars govern their lives.

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And so you see flying saucers and magic.

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Magic means: violation of natural law.

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Do you think God would have
gravity and then change his mind?

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Do you think that in God’s
infinite or divine wisdom

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he designs a system of an interrelationship
and correlation of the space time continuum

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and then varies that natural law?

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Of course not.

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And the story of temptation
is a senseless story.

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Consider this:

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that Jesus goes up to a mountain top,
and Satan says to him

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“How would you like
kingdom over the earth?"

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And he says "Get thee behind me!"

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Imagine if you’ve known God,
there is no temptation.

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It is only the hypocrite that is tempted.

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It is only the phony that is tempted,

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that no real Christian or Mohammedan

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or what have you, will be ever tempted

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if they really believe in God.

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If Christ existed and
if he said these things,

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I tend to go along with this concept.

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He said during the ascension

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"Ye shall do even greater things than I."

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He walked on water. Man walks in
space and he walked on the moon.

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Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead,
books say that he did this.

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Men like Pasteur and Madame Curie

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made it possible for millions
of people to be alive, not one.

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By the way if they understand Christianity,
nothing would anger them.

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If a man broke into your home

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you would feed him and cloth him

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and feel
"there but for the grace of God go I."

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I’m not pushing Christianity.

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All I’m saying is if you want a better
world, you have to get out and make it.

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